[Note] How Active Defenses work in the new update.


 Topic: [Note] How Active Defenses work in the new update.
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  Posted on November 28, 2008 07:52
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Hmmm...when asuma used his flying swallow, when he is stunned, the next turn the 10 dmg should not be dealt and their team will lose their 15 dmg reduction. However, during my game just now, he did not deal the 10 dmg the following turn, however his team continues to get the 15 dmg reduction.
I know my description is a bit confusing but i hope the mods or admins will get me
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  Posted on November 28, 2008 12:21
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ansonyyp wrote:
Hmmm...when asuma used his flying swallow, when he is stunned, the next turn the 10 dmg should not be dealt and their team will lose their 15 dmg reduction. However, during my game just now, he did not deal the 10 dmg the following turn, however his team continues to get the 15 dmg reduction.
I know my description is a bit confusing but i hope the mods or admins will get me
In the new engine.

An action has the rule that the character with the effect (f.e. Asuma and his defense) needs to be able to perform the action when it matters. Meaning, if you stun Asuma for 1 turn, the stun will be over when it is your turn again and he will have the damage reduction working.

But if you stun him for 1 turn, you disable the defense for the turn you are in, and if used corectly in the skill queue, you can deal full damage with the rest of your skills.

For example it is your turn and Asume is defending with his action defense. You use Acupunture first, and Uzumaki Naruto Combo second, in your turn. You will disable/interrupt his defense and you deal 15 damage.

Remmeber to order your skills in the skill queue.
  Posted on November 28, 2008 19:00
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so i guess the new system is more like to be a real battle system, just imagine we are in the real battle, he got the defense active, then stun him, he become unable to use any skill including his defense, and we should deal full damage, am i get it right so far?
  Posted on November 28, 2008 19:55
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why is this stickied? and wat gametester said
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  Posted on November 29, 2008 06:59
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CHRIS7698 wrote:
why is this stickied? and wat gametester said
probably to explain how active defense work *points to topic name*
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  Posted on November 29, 2008 21:40
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  Posted on November 30, 2008 04:18
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Gametester pretty much said it all!
But I am a little confused isn't the old system working pretty much the same!
Use your stun before your attack to negate the effect of damage reduction!:huh
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  Posted on December 1, 2008 12:05
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The concept would be hard to grasp for newbs, I am sure, but they should get it well enough if they read this.

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DISAGREE: Change any workings of reduction from what they are now.
  Posted on December 1, 2008 17:07
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So are you saying the attacks happen in real time and the or counts?

Example asuma 50% defense is hit by lion combo followed by acupuncture in same turn he takes 15 dam. But if I click acupunture first then lion combo on the same turn he will eat the full 30 dam?

Is this correct?
  Posted on December 2, 2008 08:34
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ilicmm wrote:
Gametester pretty much said it all!
But I am a little confused isn't the old system working pretty much the same!
Use your stun before your attack to negate the effect of damage reduction!:huh
On the old system you wouldn't have lost the defense capabilities for this turn even if you get stunned. It is probably best explained with Asuma. Stun him and his teammates lose their DR for THIS turn.
  Posted on December 2, 2008 15:43
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  Posted on December 2, 2008 15:52
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I think I get what you ment.
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  Posted on December 3, 2008 14:01
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Xelian wrote:
ilicmm wrote:
Gametester pretty much said it all!
But I am a little confused isn't the old system working pretty much the same!
Use your stun before your attack to negate the effect of damage reduction!:huh
On the old system you wouldn't have lost the defense capabilities for this turn even if you get stunned. It is probably best explained with Asuma. Stun him and his teammates lose their DR for THIS turn.
Thanks. Thats why I said "pretty much same" ! I like it this way better!
Thanks guys from the staff for this upgrade!:amused
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  Posted on December 7, 2008 14:12
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ilicmm wrote:
Gametester pretty much said it all!
But I am a little confused isn't the old system working pretty much the same!
Use your stun before your attack to negate the effect of damage reduction!:huh

Yes u are right if i recall it right in the old system you had to attack in a certain order but now you have to do that 2 but if you dont attack in the right order u can still put it in the right order of attack during the skill Queue

If any admin reads this please confirm or not
  Posted on December 8, 2008 08:32
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Yes. The skill queue (the little popup window which ask for confirmation). It is all explained in the manual.